Forget the Tug of War! All Electric Trucks Have This Achilles Heel Including the Tesla Cybertruck!

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  • SquishBangBlow
    SquishBangBlow  2 weeks back

    *The Ike Gauntlet and off-road segments were great!*

    • Robert B
      Robert B  2 days back

      Great information video, one point for all to consider, back when the ICE was first being made if they had a comment section people would have been sticking to their horses. Fuel, range, power, infrastructure were all issues for what was called the horseless carriage. What year did they begin building the start of our national highway system? Do you need to add oil when you fill up? Would also expect people looked upon early adopters of this loud, smelly, smokey beast with scorn and dislike for some reason. "1 HP for me" for a horses behind sign. Last point, currently ICE vehicles use engine heat to provide cabin heat if selected using the coolant in an exchange system, I am going to guess EV designers and engineers didn't forget that. The energy he was pumping into the electric motors was generating more than enough heat and likely is cooled by other than air, so an exchange system is likely. It would probably be the AC that like with my ICE car that pulls energy out of the system, enough that I feel the difference. Take the Tesla to Texas in July or August and tow some stuff please. Both types of vehicles create heat to run, so heat is easier to get, creating cold requires running a compressor currently or thermal electric circuits with their inherent problems. I'd bet even unladen the Tesla mileage goes down running the AC for the entire drive like with most ICE vehicles but not the heater.

    • Ryantube007
      Ryantube007  2 days back

      MrTommy001 Yes well ICE gas stations have had about 100 years of development. Where I live, northern Ontario, there are several locations I can charge, including my work. I commute about 100kms to work one way and there are several on route gas stations that also offer charging stations. It’s not that bad, and it’s getting better.

    • MrTommy001
      MrTommy001  2 days back

      Jack, the big deal is, you can gas (or diesel) up anywhere. Charging up? Not so much.

    • Ryantube007
      Ryantube007  4 days back

      robotec007 Apparently one company has already reached 1000wh/kg while also being more eco friendly. Innolith, a Swiss company. Obviously there are many other factors to consider, but this is a break through.

    • Ryantube007
      Ryantube007  4 days back

      robotec007 fine, drive an f150 then.

  • Timothy Hogan
    Timothy Hogan  8 minutes back

    Trailer should somehow recharge the main vehicle by harnessing kinetic energy from the trailer axle and be able to deliver that captured energy back into the power unit.

    • OffGrid Wanabe
      OffGrid Wanabe  2 hours back

      So basically you took a subcompact car and tried to evaluate it as a truck Come On Man be realistic.

      • Wookiemonsterfreak
        Wookiemonsterfreak  4 hours back

        ETrailer! Hmmm . . . If it dies, then that is a heavy dead weight. Will the trailer regen if towed?

        • Jeff Sam
          Jeff Sam  4 hours back

          This is a CAR, not a 4x4 jeep, your comments on off road experience was way off base. This car did just fine on that super rough, rocky and uneven road, that even most pickup trucks would have issues with. The Test should have been with off road tires, not Continental Super smooth rolling road tires meant for hard smooth pavement. I am in agreement with Towing capability and , there is no way anyone would drive one hour and then charge for one hour.

          • Brandon Bissett
            Brandon Bissett  5 hours back

            This video just told me to buy a rebel cus that truck looked aggressive af

            • Greg Vinson
              Greg Vinson  6 hours back

              So proceeding from the premise that all electric pickups have this problem including Tesla's, you set out to prove that the truck has the problem of limited range while towing a heavy load, by testing the towing performance of one of their....cars?


              That makes as much sense as taste testing cream of wheat by eating a bowl of oatmeal.

              • Tim Rosencrans
                Tim Rosencrans  9 hours back

                Refuel a real truck 10 min... Tesla 2 hours.

                • mavallarino
                  mavallarino  13 hours back

                  Load a diesel generator on the trailer

                  • Ehren Krause
                    Ehren Krause  13 hours back

                    😆😆😆😂😂😂 city boys going off road. Stick to the highway fellas.

                    • SHMedia
                      SHMedia  13 hours back

                      Over here max trailer speed is ~50mph (80km/h) Try that.

                      • skmetal7
                        skmetal7  14 hours back

                        I wonder if Tesla had something heavy in the back of the cybertruck for that tug-o-war. The suspension looks like its lower than normal.

                        • ra jacinto
                          ra jacinto  14 hours back

                          This is why we are not using electric rockets.

                          • Gavin Nunns
                            Gavin Nunns  15 hours back

                            It's pretty obvious we are still several years away from functional long range electric vehicles that can meet the need of a modern or even older truck.

                            Even the forecast capabilities of the cyber truck don't offer close to what I have now with my 6.7 F250 Diesel Truck.

                            • Kevin Bashnick
                              Kevin Bashnick  17 hours back

                              Great job on how this electric shit which what it is plus they aren’t towing nothing in the trailer. Junk nothing but tax sublimented junk

                              • Veracious Patriot
                                Veracious Patriot  17 hours back

                                Perform these tests at 0-32° and really feel your jaw drop with how much faster energy is depleted...

                                • Alex Zander
                                  Alex Zander  18 hours back

                                  Ok here’s the real solution that probably will be the solution for trucks in the future and it’s what they already do with electric fork lifts. The truck bed could be designed to open up giving you access to swap out half of your battery’s for fully charged ones. Then the 2nd half could slide back for those to be swapped out as well. I use to do this on forklifts and it only takes about 5 minutes. If this process was reinvented I think it could be done in about 3 minutes. Im positive this is what they will do for Semi’s and pick up trucks. Yes, it will be very expensive to build this infrastructure being described.

                                  • kickinbackinOC
                                    kickinbackinOC  18 hours back

                                    I think the Model X would be great for that grueling trail between my house and the local 7-11. Sometimes there's a nasty puddle there...slight dip in the asphalt, ya know...

                                    • rasbeans51
                                      rasbeans51  18 hours back

                                      It boils down to mathematics the EVs do not have enough kilowatt hours of energy for long distance towing as of now. If in the future they can triple current Kwh then gas trucks will need to watch out👀.

                                      • mathieu
                                        mathieu  18 hours back

                                        Pretty amazing that in the space of just a few years, we've come from people doing videos like this on just driving range with electric cars; and now we're doing towing range with horse trailers.

                                        • facemellter
                                          facemellter  19 hours back

                                          Over half of the u.s. electricity still comes from burning fossil fuels. So in a way you are still burning fossil fuel when you drive an ev. Like it or not internal combustion is still the most efficient. Especially when you consider that we have technology to make it 85% renewable with ethanol and bio diesel.

                                          • Mike N
                                            Mike N  21 hours back

                                            If you are off-road, then speed is lower, so less air resistance, so range is ok. If you tow a load, then you need batteries in the trailer as range is halved.

                                            • Brian Mark Wagner
                                              Brian Mark Wagner  1 days back

                                              The infrastructure is the hardest thing. And what's the cost to install them. And the government is gonna want to tax it yet to keep the roads repaired, like they tax each gallon of fossil fuels.

                                              • Brian Mark Wagner
                                                Brian Mark Wagner  1 days back

                                                I would NEVER off road that car.

                                                • Jesús Gómez
                                                  Jesús Gómez  1 days back

                                                  Of course, the solution is no more proprietary recharge station, but an standard agnostic recharge station network.

                                                  • Bill Platypus
                                                    Bill Platypus  1 days back

                                                    In my opinion Cybertruck is a masterpiece of bold innovation and design that only Tesla
                                                    is brave enough to attempt. I think is looks much better than run of the mill pickups.
                                                    One of the main reasons that the Cybertruck can be produced at a lower cost
                                                    relates to how the body is produced. The stainless-steel body can be formed by
                                                    simply folding the sheet metal without the necessity for expensive stamping
                                                    machines. Also, the absence of paint results in significant cost savings. A
                                                    paint shop cost 200 million dollars in initial capital expenditure and has
                                                    additional ongoing expenses. The painting and drying of is time consuming and
                                                    is often a bottle neck in production.  Cybertruck
                                                    eliminates this cost and bottle neck. The exoskeleton design was necessary to
                                                    decrease the weight of the Cyber truck so that it is not heavier than the
                                                    conventional pickup truck despite its heavy batteries. Other electric pickup
                                                    makers will have a hard time competing with this design in terms of
                                                    specifications and cost. The bizarre appearance of the Cybertruck is a
                                                    necessity to keep costs low for these specifications. The price and
                                                    specifications of this vehicle are so compelling that it is a viable
                                                    alternative to a conventional car. I would normally never buy a pickup truck,
                                                    but I will be getting the Cybertruck as my daily driver. It costs the same as
                                                    my Tesla Model 3 and has so much more capability and room. Should be great in
                                                    heavy snow and won’t rust from the salt used on streets in the winter in the
                                                    Chicago area where I live. Won’t need to worry that one bird shit will stain
                                                    the car forever.  The only downside when
                                                    compared to a car is its large size which might cause issues with parking in
                                                    some areas. The pickup truck will use more electricity per mile driven then the
                                                    car but the additional cost difference is not as significant as with internal
                                                    combustion pickup trucks. Once the general public understands this, there might
                                                    be a whole new segment of population that will opt for the cyber truck instead
                                                    of a car. Power outage in the house? Run an extension cord to Cybertruck and
                                                    get by with powering essentials like phones, broadband modems, and rechargeable
                                                    led lighting. You could even cook with an instant pot or induction cooker. Also,
                                                    Elon confirmed on twitter the car may have a solar option for the bed cover
                                                    that can add some range when the car is parked in the sun. I don’t care that
                                                    other people may not like how this looks. If they want something that looks
                                                    like a regular pickup they will pay more and get less. Not a choice that I
                                                    would make. I would like to see this low-cost polygon body concept scaled down
                                                    to a mid-sized SUV with three rows of seats with the last two rows foldable and
                                                    removable. This would be a better alternative to a family car than a pickup
                                                    truck. Scaling this down to an urban hatch back the size of a Honda Fit should
                                                    allow an EV with a range of 200 miles for low $20Ks in couple of years.

                                                    • Larry Jaques
                                                      Larry Jaques  1 days back

                                                      Pop this in the trunk. No worries! https://amzn.com/B07MMZZSHC

                                                      • casanova419
                                                        casanova419  1 days back

                                                        49 out 50 states no problem in California you just got to hope the electricity don't get shut off.

                                                        • PigMine 6
                                                          PigMine 6  1 days back

                                                          @0:58 please grease your balls bro

                                                          • VideZoniX !
                                                            VideZoniX !  1 days back

                                                            Sweet. But..ahh. ..A horse trailer..weighing 4400 pounds...Geeez. How many ppl expect their electric car to be awesome at towing a horse trailer? Seems a bit harsh... But it still did the job anyway. Expectations might be a bit too high here.

                                                            • My Vizn
                                                              My Vizn  1 days back

                                                              I think you are throwing a lot of crap on the wall trying to make it stick...of course towing depletes range.....duh

                                                              • Gabino Mentao
                                                                Gabino Mentao  2 days back

                                                                Still can’t pull like my Ram 2500

                                                                • John Stark
                                                                  John Stark  2 days back

                                                                  I am going to move from Colton Ca to Atlanta Ga and I'll tell ya I feel a lot better towing my boat and all my crap in the back of my 2002 F150. I don't care about leftist crap.

                                                                  • Mike Hara
                                                                    Mike Hara  2 days back

                                                                    Only an idiot would take a saloon car on such a off road track and most people know the more weight you tow and especially up hills the more energy the vehicle will use that goes for all types of vehicles whether fuelled with electric, Diesel or gasoline, people like these should stick to their gas guzzling land rovers .

                                                                    • freewill1114
                                                                      freewill1114  2 days back

                                                                      Charging your battery in the woods is easy:






                                                                      Look for a currant bush!

                                                                      • Greg Blanton
                                                                        Greg Blanton  2 days back

                                                                        Lol tesla owners, put a leash on your little failures and walk them up a trail! With their owners are supposedly being so smart, they are exceptionally nieve! The flaw with electric vehicles is they have no driving range to effectively compete with gas powered vehicles in many ways.

                                                                        • Brian Todd
                                                                          Brian Todd  2 days back

                                                                          Clearly the Model X AWD is meant for commuting snow and ice, not full on off road.

                                                                          • Tim Napier
                                                                            Tim Napier  2 days back

                                                                            Definitely, some further progress needs to be made in electrically fueling “all” our vehicles, esp. the towing ones. Won’t be a concern for me. But, just curious if your channel is getting any fossil fuel lobby money. I think they would love you guys!

                                                                            • oscar carranza
                                                                              oscar carranza  2 days back

                                                                              Tesla model X never was meant to be an off roader...come on man. It's a luxury vehicle, I get the trailer test for stats n range purposes. But off roading it??..Thats a cybertruck episode guys.

                                                                              • hiro kb
                                                                                hiro kb  2 days back

                                                                                What if the trailer companies or rather these companies making the truck come up with some sort of recharging port on the trailer an the trailer had a battery that is recharged by the spinning of the wheels an the vehicle can recharge of the batter in the trailer

                                                                                • hiro kb
                                                                                  hiro kb  2 days back

                                                                                  These companies can even make accessories for allready made trailers that can be modified in to the trailers to make it a charging port trailer

                                                                              • Morten Thrysøe
                                                                                Morten Thrysøe  2 days back

                                                                                offroad most events is like 30-40 miles a day - solarpanel in the volt :)

                                                                                • Morten Thrysøe
                                                                                  Morten Thrysøe  2 days back

                                                                                  You are right! - ultimately you need to be able toe a 10 tons spaceship over a Mars mountain without atmosphere, superchargers and roads right? I lookforward to Elon tweeting a picture of that soon ;)

                                                                                  • Boss Man
                                                                                    Boss Man  2 days back

                                                                                    Your hands are waving like Scotty Kilmar's. Thanks for this real world test. We are not there yet. I guess we are waiting for more battery energy density.

                                                                                    • ben napier
                                                                                      ben napier  2 days back

                                                                                      That's the worst all wheel drive I've ever seen. It more like any wheel drive

                                                                                      • Matt Wollert
                                                                                        Matt Wollert  2 days back

                                                                                        Just put in a Mr. Fusion. Problem solved.

                                                                                        • JP Nelson
                                                                                          JP Nelson  2 days back

                                                                                          On the offroad segment, if you bottom out a tesla (or other electric), does it run the risk of puncturing the battery and making the car explode? That's a pretty significant issue or explore. It doesn't seem like many of the people at Tesla have much experience or interest in the Rubicon or Moab. Granted it's a niche market, but so is street racing, and they seem pretty interested in approaching that area of motorsport.

                                                                                          • Roger Crossley
                                                                                            Roger Crossley  2 days back

                                                                                            A lion battery is a lion battery is a lion battery no matter what it is in, EV's just use more of them, and when you fast charge them their life expectancy shortens, to make EV's practical and compete with an IC you need to fast charge them, so projected battery life and therefore the replacement time arrives a lot sooner, replacement costs are far from cheap a modern petrol engine is good for at least 150,000 miles and a diesel 250,000 miles, how does that compare to a battery?, also batteries do not like to be stored in a discharged state, leave an IC engine for five years fresh fuel and your good to go, in our rush to go EV are we in danger of storing problems that will bite us in the future?.

                                                                                            • Ptyty
                                                                                              Ptyty  2 days back

                                                                                              Pulling trailer and about loading the truck with construction tools and materials