Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

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  • Published: 08 October 2019
  • Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.

    Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.

    At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,

    "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."

    Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,

    "There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"

    Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,

    "Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."

    Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!

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Comments • 5 076

  • Looper
    Looper   5 months back

    How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

    • Dantes230
      Dantes230  2 weeks back

      Joseph Bernard nope. Overanalysis paralysis. Wrong. He read batman and thinks he is the joker, but kills the psych, and dances like in his 'delusion' . Riiight

    • Dantes230
      Dantes230  2 weeks back

      AEWFans he is in the asylum. They WASH inmates ofc his hair isn t green and no mask. This is an R rates movie what are kids doing here?

    • Dantes230
      Dantes230  2 weeks back

      All. You are wrong, this video is wrong. He is the joker, they never said he is not. He kills the psych at the end ( bloody footprints ) .. same dance.. it's real. He is the joker.

    • Dantes230
      Dantes230  2 weeks back

      Joker almost made as much money as Endgame with 15% the budget and it being R rated. Highest grossing R movie in history. Boom facts

    • oasisbeyond
      oasisbeyond  2 weeks back

      1%

  • S B Q
    S B Q  3 days back

    " I would rather wonder than get all the answers.... " 😅😅😅

    • S B Q
      S B Q  3 days back

      This movie is an Art, and real art takes time to be grasped by the viewers.

      • henry evans
        henry evans  3 days back

        I still like to believe he won the love of the rioters. The way they all cheered for him tore me up lol

        • Lana Khader
          Lana Khader  5 days back

          I think it’s dumb when their like well it might not even be real or he might not even be so and so like can we just have a movie where someone is actually who we think we are damn I’m to stupid for the other shit

          • Maitri
            Maitri  1 weeks back

            The joke’s on him as I will never see another of his films.

            • James Jones
              James Jones  1 weeks back

              Joker created batman so lets get to filming now we got a good batman story now

              • Airehcaz
                Airehcaz  1 weeks back

                I really, really, really, really hope they don’t make that story a depiction of delusion or something just made up by Arthur.
                I hope even more, Arthur becomes the real Joker that antagonizes Batman. I’ll be quite disappointed if that’s not the case.

                • KhataarFelMataar
                  KhataarFelMataar  1 weeks back

                  A bit late but, there is too much order in character development for this to be a mere lunatic's fantasy.

                  • Name_
                    Name_  2 weeks back

                    I think he is The Joker. The scene at the end perhaps reveals that he has been telling this story to the psychiatrist- and it may or not be completely true - because that's what The Joker would do, as he prefers his past to be multiple choice. Plus, the character is better with some mystery.

                    • Dantes230
                      Dantes230  2 weeks back

                      He is the joker, they never said he is not. He kills the psych at the end ( bloody footprints ) .. same dance.. it's real. He is the joker.

                      • Dantes230
                        Dantes230  2 weeks back

                        He laughs because of the story, which is true, its conclusion, or the fact that he can and does escape at his whim killing the psychiatrist in the process

                        • Pingas
                          Pingas  2 weeks back

                          I love how DC went for a more non-action kind of movie unlike *cough* marvel *cough.
                          Joker is definitely one of the best movies of 2019.

                          • Grarder
                            Grarder  2 weeks back

                            This is exactly why there should be no sequel! It let it up to the viewers interpretation and there's no right or wrong answer. What ever theory you want to believe is as possible as any other. I thought it was perfect just as is.

                            • Kingship LLC
                              Kingship LLC  2 weeks back

                              You're right it's not real it's a movie none of it's real

                              • Excess Triangles
                                Excess Triangles  2 weeks back

                                Maybe the joker will defeat Superman next time with the help of hobbits so then Star Wars wouldn’t start beating pikachu
                                Fakts

                                • Zach Dimick
                                  Zach Dimick  3 weeks back

                                  He really had the last laugh

                                  • Starseed O
                                    Starseed O  3 weeks back

                                    Is it wrong that I want to sleep with joker 🙄

                                    • donniecatalano
                                      donniecatalano  3 weeks back

                                      I will never understand why these things need to be explained. Is the general public becoming dumber or what!?!

                                      • Da Main Mane
                                        Da Main Mane  3 weeks back

                                        I'm so confused,besides this origin,the only origin we have on Joker is him falling into some goo-like unknown substance and he crawls out laughing...And Arthur influenced his style???A style that is potentially all in his head???Then there's an even more bizarre origin of the real "comic book"Joker who actually knows he's in a comic book and that becomes the reason he goes madly insane🤦🏿‍♂️idk...

                                        • Anon B
                                          Anon B  3 weeks back

                                          The joke is that they smuggled in an arthouse film right under the noses of the franchise junkies.

                                          • Please Help
                                            Please Help  3 weeks back

                                            “which is my favorite laugh” GIRL SAME— first time I heard that high pitched ring of a laugh I lost it

                                            • Clayton L
                                              Clayton L  3 weeks back

                                              How could the joker be an adult when Bruce was a kid and not be old af by the time Bruce is Batman?

                                              • Jamie Early
                                                Jamie Early  3 weeks back

                                                That character that followed the Waynes into the ally becomes the Joker. So Arthur created/inspired/motivated the Joker.

                                                • Andrew Tempalski
                                                  Andrew Tempalski  3 weeks back

                                                  A dread pirate Roberts situation.

                                                  • Domenic Torreto
                                                    Domenic Torreto  3 weeks back

                                                    If they did all this, just to show some other person being influenced by JOKERS actions....to become the 'next' JOKER....I am out. That would be the best way for DC to lose their fan base and destroy this incredible foundation of a story they have started. Marvel; look out!

                                                    • Kimchicracker
                                                      Kimchicracker  3 weeks back

                                                      I think it could be that Arthur just wanted a father like Thomas Wayne, just like he fantasizes about Murray saying nice things about him in the beginning. But it is really open to interpretation. A true classic that leaves us all guessing. If Phoenix doesn’t win an Oscar it would be a travesty.

                                                      • sksigil
                                                        sksigil  3 weeks back

                                                        The first joke he told on murrays stage "knock, knock - its the police-" shows you how dark jokers sense of humour is. So why would he laugh at the end of the movie, and why would it cut to Thomas Waynes death?
                                                        My theory is that Waynes death is funny to Joker. He hated Wayne for telling him he was adopted and that his mother was a liar and he probably wanted to kill him regardless of whether it was the truth or not. But he didn't, instead someone else who looked like him killed Wayne AND said the same line Joker said to Murray before he killed him on stage. So people were going to believe it WAS him who murdered Wayne. AND the real killer left his son, Bruce Wayne alive - Wayne said he would kill joker if he touched his son. And Bruce ends up an orphan, possibly even adopted just like the joker. It is all ironically dark and twisted. I think if he found out the way Wayne died, it would be hilarious to the joker. And no I don't think he is the real joker, but I do think he was a real character in Gotham and did really influence events. That's my 2 cents (LOL)

                                                        • Brett Haynes
                                                          Brett Haynes  3 weeks back

                                                          How does the age gap work If he’s the Joker who becomes Batman’s nemesis?

                                                          • Chris Devlin
                                                            Chris Devlin  4 weeks back

                                                            No shit...there's scene when he goes to the mental hospital and asks how someone ends up here...having already been there...no one picked up on this ?

                                                            • timothy fain
                                                              timothy fain  4 weeks back

                                                              I really enjoyed this movie but anytime that there is a surreal moment or subtlety its undermined by treating the audience like they aren't getting the disingenuous nature of Arthur's psyche and the ending too felt like beating a dead horse and a cop out of making an actual ending in my opinion it would've been much more impactful to just end it with him dancing on the car.

                                                              • timothy fain
                                                                timothy fain  4 weeks back

                                                                Also if you didnt come to the conclusion that Arthur's an unreliable narrator and that he might not be the joker by yourself you are kind of a dum-dum

                                                            • deadblood 4115
                                                              deadblood 4115  1 months back

                                                              If this ain't the start of a new universe I'm gonna be really pissed off cause he's my favorite joker

                                                            • NOT Omar
                                                              NOT Omar  1 months back

                                                              The riots and him shooting Murray are real, when he laughs in the audience of the stand up show it was fantasy as no one called him out. When he was on live TV many people reacted negatively, when he was in the back of the cruiser the cops reacted negatively. Some parts are fantasy but the riots and him killing Murray were not.

                                                              • Ramp Shark
                                                                Ramp Shark  1 months back

                                                                Kill The Rich! Childhood is idealizing Batman, Adulthood is when you realize that the Joker makes more sense! Especially in this movie that shows how rich greedy capitalists are un compassionate assholes!

                                                                • Sonically Sound
                                                                  Sonically Sound  1 months back

                                                                  I think he's just hyping it up to make the movie more interesting.

                                                                  • Fousrin
                                                                    Fousrin  1 months back

                                                                    A lot of people seem to be pissed off with the “it never happened” ending, but the point that Phillips has constantly reiterated is that this ending is up to interpretation. He never said “yeah, none of it happened,” he just said that he’s heard other people say that. So if you think that everything shown truly happened, then, for all intended purposes, it all happened.

                                                                    • Critical Sh!t Entertainment

                                                                      I think it's all real, except for the relationship with the girl. Also, I think the laugh at the end is genuine because he really does find what happened to him funny.
                                                                      + The thing about there not being a sequel where he fights Batman is probably because Bruce looks around 10 years old at most here, meaning atleast 10 years for Batman to even exist.

                                                                      • lastpme
                                                                        lastpme  1 months back

                                                                        Great 👍🏿 movie.

                                                                        • Jeri Lyn
                                                                          Jeri Lyn  1 months back

                                                                          just brilliant!!!!

                                                                          • Matt Albert
                                                                            Matt Albert  1 months back

                                                                            For all the idiots saying this isn't a DC Films movie are morons. It was Produced by DC Films. Google it

                                                                            • Gary M
                                                                              Gary M  1 months back

                                                                              I dont get why people have such a hard time understanding different interpretations. Why are folk so obsessed with "the real joker?" So obsessed with black and white, batman v joker blandness...

                                                                              • Zeynep Unsal
                                                                                Zeynep Unsal  1 months back

                                                                                Maybe Arthur is the father of the joker

                                                                                • knoble1985
                                                                                  knoble1985  1 months back

                                                                                  The proof is in the title i suppose!

                                                                                  • colleen mcnally
                                                                                    colleen mcnally  1 months back

                                                                                    Nope he is the joker and he has clown things and does kill people not a harmless man I'm mental ward in his imaginary world. That would mean he didn't ever need to act it out his own mind is satisfied in his own room. Like to think as it happens for real.

                                                                                    • Erika
                                                                                      Erika  1 months back

                                                                                      wait but.. Joker and Batman are half-brothers

                                                                                      • Trevor G
                                                                                        Trevor G  1 months back

                                                                                        I feel like the laugh after he kills Murray was genuine

                                                                                        • Absybad
                                                                                          Absybad  1 months back

                                                                                          _The Biggest Joke of The Movie Is That The Movie Itself Is A Joke._

                                                                                          • John Wright
                                                                                            John Wright  1 months back

                                                                                            Scenes of him wearing the brown jacket is fake. Surely im not the only one who noticed this