Is The F-35 Worth $115 Million?

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    References:
    [1] gao.gov/assets/600/591608.pdf
    [2]boeing.com/history/products/x-32-joint-strike-fighter.page
    [3] nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-boeings-x-32-could-have-replaced-the-f-35-why-it-never-22134
    [4] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Harrier_Jump_Jet_family_losses
    [5] fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/jsf.htm
    [6] f35.com/in-depth/detail/how-it-works-f-35b-hover
    [7] rolls-royce.com/products-and-services/defence/aerospace/combat-jets/rolls-royce-liftsystem.aspx#section-our-customers
    [8] web.archive.org/web/20081115084346/rolls-royce.com/defence_aerospace/technology/stovl.jsp

    [9] f35.com/assets/uploads/documents/FG18-24036_010_F35FastFacts10_2019.pdf
    [10] globalaircraft.org/planes/av-8b_harrier_ii.pl
    [11] f35.com/about/variants
    [12] businessinsider.com/f-35-vs-f-16-15-18-lost-beaten-flatley-comeback-2017-4?r=US&IR=T
    [13] medium.com/war-is-boring/read-for-yourself-the-f-35-s-damning-dogfighting-report-719a4e66f3eb
    [14] ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-the-f-35-was-not-beaten-by-an-f-16/
    [15] airspacemag.com/military-aviation/f-35-faces-most-critical-test-180971734/
    [16]theaviationist.com/2017/02/28/red-flag-confirmed-f-35-dominance-with-a-201-kill-ratio-u-s-air-force-says/
    [17] lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/f-35-lightning-ii-eots.html
    [18] airspacemag.com/military-aviation/super-helmet-180964342/
    [19] militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2018/01/09/the-f-117-nighthawks-near-perfect-combat-record/
    [20] nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/did-russias-new-radar-just-make-americas-lethal-stealth-16936
    [21] nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/stealth-can-be-defeated-1999-f-117-nighthawk-was-shot-down-35142
    [22] f35.com/about/cost
    [23] flightglobal.com/news/articles/middle-east-demand-could-boost-f-35-sales-to-4600-u-458548/#targetText=Lockheed%20Martin%20believes%20that%20worldwide,sales%20potential%20of%204%2C000%20aircraft.


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Comments • 8 274

  • Real Engineering
    Real Engineering   1 months back

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    • Inga Nodie
      Inga Nodie  2 days back

      Jet fighters are already dead there are Hyper-sonic Ballistic missiles you can kill anyone where ever without going any where

    • Seán O'Nilbud
      Seán O'Nilbud  3 days back

      You can leave the /c out of the url

    • Ron Johnson
      Ron Johnson  2 weeks back

      @wolum andreas...what mental illness are you suffering from? Or is it bottle flu maybe?

    • 99smite
      99smite  3 weeks back

      I would not assess the stealth capacities of any modern aircraft so optimistically. The USA have never fought an ennemy with equal technological capacities after 1945.Claiming that no F117 was shot down over Iraq is like claiming that there were no accidents during test flights.The F117s never met any resistance, neither aircraft nor a viable AAM system... Have you never wondered why Russia sold their new anti aircraft missile system to Turkey, NATO member who possesses F35 airplanes? NEver wondered why Trump hardly reacted with severe sanctions?

    • Arvind Patel
      Arvind Patel  3 weeks back

      Please make a video on alcohol powered engine made by Israel

  • Hip Russian Man
    Hip Russian Man  9 minutes back

    GET OUT OF MY RECOMMENDED I DONT CARE HOW MUCH THIS COSTS

    • TheOtherMike
      TheOtherMike  1 hours back

      Didn't Lockheed receive a $34 billion contract for 438 F-35's? $34 billion/438 = approx. $77.6 million each. No?

      • 1up4u
        1up4u  3 hours back

        just can't imagine the pressure for pilots ... when you know the price of those birds.

        • DD
          DD  4 hours back

          There goes our tax dollar enriching a selective few - the military industrial complex is one hella rich men's legal corruptio scheme that our government is happy to support. IN ANY OTHER INDUSTRY - private or public - multiple failures would've shut down the project so fast you wouldn't have known it even existed! THE ONLY Exception is that if PRIVATE money was used! NOT GONNA HAPPEN? YEA? See Blue Origin from Bezo. YEP. He used his own money!

          • flip inheck
            flip inheck  4 hours back

            Bullshit, the F35B is not VTOL, it is STOVL only and has no advantages over the Harrier other than speed.

            • Craig Simpson
              Craig Simpson  8 hours back

              F-35 has evolved significantly since that report. That F-35 had G limits in addition to what you mentioned.

              • J Rich
                J Rich  10 hours back

                No.

                • iskandartaib
                  iskandartaib  10 hours back

                  More expensive than the B-2 and the F-22?? Interesting.

                  • flexst
                    flexst  11 hours back

                    I can’t even make a paper airplane

                    • G A Pratt
                      G A Pratt  15 hours back

                      Problem with trying to replace the A 10 is that it is a huge flying gun. Anyone interested in Lockheed's development of stealth, read the book Skunk works by Ben Rich, great book!

                      • Funny Memes
                        Funny Memes  16 hours back

                        How did you even get the information of the fighter jet?

                        • Shawn Sitaras
                          Shawn Sitaras  16 hours back

                          lot of people don't realize just like a car when it's assembled it's not just the part you're paying for it's all the design research and testing that way into producing those parts fitting them together and engineering them so that they can work together as one

                          • Love muss B
                            Love muss B  20 hours back

                            Judging what some companies pay for software I think it’s cheap

                            • sashazxtt
                              sashazxtt  21 hours back

                              Is any killing machine worth any price?

                              • David
                                David  22 hours back

                                1:25.....the f35 sought to be an air superiority machine to replace the F16 and A10, neither of which are air superiority machines.
                                I stopped watching there, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

                                • alotto cash
                                  alotto cash  1 days back

                                  Yes!

                                  • Austin Shropshire
                                    Austin Shropshire  1 days back

                                    I would just like to point out that the marines are actually part of the Navy.

                                    • Real Tall News
                                      Real Tall News  1 days back

                                      Being an 'engineering' channel, assumed you would actually extrapolate the cost of building with known materials.

                                      • Juan Ar
                                        Juan Ar  1 days back

                                        Prices for lot 11, today:
                                        F-35A 089.2 m
                                        F-35B 115.5 m
                                        F-35C 107.7 m
                                        https://www.f35.com/about/cost

                                        Prices for lot 12, 2020:
                                        F-35A 082.4 m
                                        F-35B 108.0 m
                                        F-35C 103.0 m
                                        https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/lockheed-martin-f-35a-to-be-priced-at-779m-by-2022-461870/

                                        Convergence.

                                        • YAZ
                                          YAZ  1 days back

                                          Thanks Youtube. Off to buy one.

                                          • Shane Jackson
                                            Shane Jackson  1 days back

                                            Where can I get that paint for my car? Cut down on getting caught by radar traps for speeding!! Yeah it is expensive, but puts lots of money into the execs pockets. War is profitable to many people, and dead bodies are just the cost. All the rebuilding that needs to be done creates jobs, and the people killed, well the the ones who survive can have their jobs. The only war humans should be worried about is full scale Nuclear war.

                                            • oubrioko
                                              oubrioko  1 days back

                                              22:05 That was one hell of a segue

                                              • Demis D
                                                Demis D  2 days back

                                                And the Su 57 cist 40 million . And again reports that say F35 lost all samulation to older planes like Mirage and and f-16 , reports from other planes said that this plan is to slow.

                                                • dumdumbinks274
                                                  dumdumbinks274  2 days back

                                                  Su-57 prototypes cost between 50-60 million each and were only configured with specific systems for testing purposes. Considering an Su-35S is worth about $80 million the Su-57 is certainly not going to be cheaper than the F-35.
                                                  I suggest doing some actual research into what pilots think. The F-35 is not slow at all and is quite literally superior to the F-16 in every aspect of performance.

                                              • Post_Moves
                                                Post_Moves  2 days back

                                                Nothing can replace the A-10

                                                • Nightfly
                                                  Nightfly  22 hours back

                                                  In terms of the sounds made, you're absolutely correct. =D

                                              • Stefan Johansson
                                                Stefan Johansson  2 days back

                                                It's a high price and one wonder if the dollars spent could have done better somewhere else?

                                                • Loui Throttler
                                                  Loui Throttler  2 days back

                                                  Guess I'm Anglish. Best thing about this to me was the novelty of hearing science and economics with an Oirish accent. Not 'manny' of them te be shah.

                                                  • Gordon Welford
                                                    Gordon Welford  2 days back

                                                    Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

                                                    • joren VdS
                                                      joren VdS  2 days back

                                                      Just a little tip: if you have white in your video (like here 11:20) never make it super white but at a little bit of color.

                                                      • The Armchair SpacemanTM

                                                        no.
                                                        nothing designed to end lives is worth a spittle.
                                                        and you could indeed go in to the politics, or better yet, it's role in international relations. you could at least drop the excitement and smiley-voice antics, you could at least make it perfectly clear that the f 35 is a weapons platform designed for the sole purpose of killing.. you could have some respect for the innocents the US government inadvertently slaughters in passing while bombing terrorists they themselves created. being an engineer doesn't need to mean you become a shallow amoral peasant, wee man.

                                                        • Saurav Sen
                                                          Saurav Sen  2 days back

                                                          Yakolev giggles in the background

                                                          • Bill Katakis
                                                            Bill Katakis  2 days back

                                                            I'd rather fly the aircraft in the "Gimbal Video" , but it's a cool airplane.

                                                            • Dirge419
                                                              Dirge419  2 days back

                                                              NO is the honest answer, Boeing has made the modern day equivalent of the Starfighter, it is unstable and ill suited for the purpose to which is was "designed". The only reason the NATO countries are buying them is because the Americans threaten everyone with economic cuts and higher trade costs if they buy from someone else. The US economy is so closely tied to Boeing and the F35 project that if it were to fail the US economy would collapse as a result, the fact is there are better planes being designed at a better cost with more secure developments and actual testing performed before production is started.

                                                              • Dave Wolfy
                                                                Dave Wolfy  2 days back

                                                                As funded by Lockheed Martin.

                                                                • Casual Entertainment
                                                                  Casual Entertainment  2 days back

                                                                  The short answer is no, its the greatest military resource sink of all time and a project that has gotten to big to fail without someone losing face. Did you mention that every flight deck in the navy has to be replaced to use the F-35 properly because its engine would melt the deck?

                                                                  • Alpha_Alpaca
                                                                    Alpha_Alpaca  2 days back

                                                                    Imagine battlefield 4 with only the F35

                                                                    • Andrei Yang
                                                                      Andrei Yang  3 days back

                                                                      20:05 I noticed the Closed Captions said "[need reference]". This totally makes sense with the recalling of parts as every F-35 needs to be perfect, considering the entire rest of the plane being at stake if something fails. However, I'd also like to know if you found the reference that says that.

                                                                      • Dmitry Vasilenko
                                                                        Dmitry Vasilenko  3 days back

                                                                        The windows are made of gemstones?? Really???!!!

                                                                        • tachtego
                                                                          tachtego  3 days back

                                                                          The chief test pilot of Lookheed-Martin assure that the f-35 can out-manoeuver every american plane ? Seriously ? Is that an evidence that this bulky, heavy and underpowered plane is in reality a hummingbird ? Let me think... Oh yes, software updates. They fix everything ;)

                                                                        • augreich
                                                                          augreich  3 days back

                                                                          The F-35 kicks ass!

                                                                          • Burak Atilla
                                                                            Burak Atilla  3 days back

                                                                            russia and china will develop advanced radars less than a decade that can detect f-35,
                                                                            then, what happens?

                                                                            • Black Box
                                                                              Black Box  14 hours back

                                                                              Bullshit. It takes a lot of research to figure out how to SEE that plane. China has the money but lacks a lot of what it takes to do the job. Then in war its still very VERY hard to know what you seeing is a plane or a damn bird flying.. Either way we take every advantage we can .. If not you might be forced to be a chinaman...

                                                                            • Sally Hillal
                                                                              Sally Hillal  2 days back

                                                                              The Taxpayers will be raped by the government again to support military with out victory or profit

                                                                          • Hairyfeet
                                                                            Hairyfeet  3 days back

                                                                            Gee where have I heard all this before? Oh yeah the early 1960s when they made crap like the Thud. "Oh we don't need to dogfight we have missiles" then came Vietnam and they got their asses handed to them by Migs. Remember hearing the same shit about the stealth in the late 80s too, and then the Serbs found they could tweak the freqs and voila! Nighthawk becomes target practice.

                                                                            Lets be honest folks, the USA MIC has become a SCAM, plain and simple. They design something crap for a shitload of money then get paid ANOTHER shitload of money to try to fix the crap, and of course nobody is gonna say boo because they make sure the parts are being built in enough districts to spread that pork around so the piggies feed well. Nice work if you can get it but I have a feeling if the USA fights anybody other than jokes like Syria and NK with their 50 year old planes? The F35s will be sitting on the ground while the F15s and F18s do the work.

                                                                            • Nathan Peterson
                                                                              Nathan Peterson  3 days back

                                                                              > *_"Oh yeah the early 1960s when they made crap like the Thud. "Oh we don't need to dogfight we have missiles" then came Vietnam and they got their asses handed to them by Migs"_*

                                                                              That's not what happened at all. The gun being fitted grew more out of use of ground support, not dogfighting. The U.S.N. simply improved missile reliability and training and their air victories to loss ratios sky rocketed. Gun kills even after introduction to both USAF and USN decreased over time.

                                                                              > *_" Remember hearing the same shit about the stealth in the late 80s too, and then the Serbs found they could tweak the freqs and voila! Nighthawk becomes target practice."_*

                                                                              The _F-117A_ was an antiquated aircraft that lacked any form of countermeasures save being low observable. It had no refits to speak of that improved survivability since introduction. The _S-125_ and its associated arrays were modernized systems from the mid eighties and the 250th Missile Air Defense Brigade were professionals. They noted through IR systems an aircraft was flying on the same route as other aircraft that day- and thus fired two missiles. The first failed to lock on, the second did.

                                                                              What nonsense are you rambling on about?

                                                                          • HARRY BALLS ツ
                                                                            HARRY BALLS ツ  3 days back

                                                                            With all the orders from clients coming in the real cost of each F-35 is now around 80 million

                                                                            • Milos Pesic
                                                                              Milos Pesic  3 days back

                                                                              Sorry about F117, we didn't know it was invisible. -Serbs

                                                                              • Nathan Peterson
                                                                                Nathan Peterson  3 days back

                                                                                The _F-117A_ was an antiquated aircraft that lacked any form of countermeasures save being low observable. It had no refits to speak of that improved survivability since introduction. The _S-125_ and its associated arrays were modernized systems from the mid eighties and the 250th Missile Air Defense Brigade were professionals. They noted through IR systems an aircraft was flying on the same route as other aircraft that day- and thus fired two missiles. The first failed to lock on, the second did.

                                                                            • BIG WIGGLE
                                                                              BIG WIGGLE  3 days back

                                                                              Lol!! Your curiosity plug timing was perfect!!! I literally busted a gut laughing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                                                                              • En Win
                                                                                En Win  4 days back

                                                                                An expensive decoy to dupe the Chinese into copying a lemon. Meanwhile the F22 rules the skies, well played USA!

                                                                                • airplane800
                                                                                  airplane800  4 days back

                                                                                  Someone told me once that those projects are called " Job security" so everyone works as slow as they can so they guarantee they will have jobs for a long time. People already learned that when those government projects end many people loose their jobs. That's is the reason those projects take forever and cost 30 times more than should. Another interesting thing is that companies will always charge more for parts and supplies used in government projects. A screw that may cost $5 in manufacturing a car may cost $5.000 when manufacturing an airplane for the government. Even if it is the same screw. Overcharging the government is big business. Tax payers pay the bill. Just to put in perspective the project cost for the Boeing 777X is 5 Billion, the project cost for the F-35 was 406 Billion. The Swedish Gripen program cost was 13.5 Billion. It cost 30 times more to develop a jetfighter in the US than in Sweden. The most interesting thing is that the next war will probably be nuclear and these airplanes will be useless. It cost 81 times more to develop a F-35 than to develop a Boeing 777X which is 20 times more complex than a F-35.

                                                                                  • Anton Qvarfordt
                                                                                    Anton Qvarfordt  4 days back

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